I kind of look at this day as the end of my innocence. I was in 4th grade and my brother was the captain of the crossing guards and he came in and announced very solemnly, "The President has been shot." Shortly afterward he came and said, "The President is dead." The nuns hustled us over to the church where they had put a black cloth over some chairs like a coffin. The next few days were surreal with the killing of Lee Harvey Oswald during Sunday dinner and then the funeral on Monday. I really related to Caroline and John-John too.
After that I started thinking about death alot and feeling nervous where before I had been a very happy-go-lucky kid. Of course the subsequent assassinations, the Vietnam war and everything after that further convinced me that the world is a very dangerous place.
FWIW, I had a similar experience. I was in the third grade; my smart older brother J. was in the eighth grade.
I mention J. because our parochial school had a disused public address system; big, boxy speakers were mounted on the walls above the blackboards, but as far as I recall the PA system had never been used previously during my time there.
But on November 22, 1963, it suddenly crackled into life-- although it faded in and out for a while. It turns out that our principal, who had no idea how to work the control unit in her office, was prudent enough to summon smart eighth-graders to try to get it to transmit a radio broadcast. J. told me later that day that he was the guy who figured out how to enable the PA system.
It was confusing at first, but between the haphazard bursts of radio reporting from the PA speaker and (eventually) the nuns telling us that JFK had been killed, we got the message. To use an Irish idiom I picked up from the nuns, some girls began "bawlin' cryin'".
I believe we were dismissed early. At the end of the day, students formed various lines at our schoolyard's designated exit points; as we trudged up the alley to the adjacent street and dispersed, the line was dead quiet except for some crying. We were stunned.
We remained stunned during dinner. I think I still have the Philadelphia Evening Bulletin edition with the headline "Kennedy Shot Dead" in oversized bold font.
I was a precocious kid, but of course I swallowed the official narrative hook, line, and sinker. By the time I reached my cynical teens I knew better. It was a life-changing day. 😪 🤔
“If you were alive and aware on 11/22/63, where were you? How did the news make you feel?“
I was a sophomore at Penn State living off campus. I overslept or something and was running across campus to get to my class, but no one was there, it was deserted. Somehow I found out that Kennedy had been shot, so I got on the bus and went home like everyone else.
At that time I was not a fan of JFK. I had been to a lecture by Paul Goodman where he said that being a speed reader didn’t make you smart (he didn’t think much of Kennedy). I thought that Kennedy was just all show with all the Camelot stuff. I was not aware of how he had saved the world from a nuclear confrontation with Russia over the Cuban Missile crisis and I had not heard or read his “Peace Speech” at American University.
Even though JFK was not my hero at the time, after I saw Jack Ruby shoot Oswald on TV, I never believed anything the government or media said about the assassination. It was clear to me that it was an “inside job.”
There is an incredible video by Andrew Lankes with Bill Hicks, “The Elite.” It’s a puppet show where Bill Clinton is shown a film of the Kennedy assassination in a smokey room with a bunch of old ‘capitalist scumfucks.’ They ask Clinton, “Any questions?” He answers, “Just what my agenda is.”
I believe that every politician who might think of being independent has this assassination in the back of their minds and I’m pretty sure that there will never be another one who will try and be like John F. Kennedy.
Well, it takes some paradigm shifting with this hallowed day, but you gotta put this at the feet of Isra-Hell, Mossad, the new or old Nazi's, all those non-Semites who ended up from Europe and decided they are the new Jerusalem. Read: Guyenot is amazing!
Kennedy Assassination: "CIA-Did-It" Theorists Are Covering for Israel -- by LAURENT GUYÉNOT • NOVEMBER 17, 2023 • 9,500 WORDS
It is inconceivable that Angleton directed the whole operation. But if he was not following orders from Richard Helms — and there is not a single piece of evidence that Helms knew of the assassination —, under whose direction or influence was he operating? That is an easy one: besides Counterintelligence, Angleton headed the “Israeli Desk”, and he had more intimate contacts with the hierarchy of the Mossad than with his own. He loved Israelis as much as he hated Communists — apparently believing that one man could not be both. Meir Amit, head of Mossad from 1963 to 1968, called him “the biggest Zionist” in Washington, while Robert Amory, head of the CIA Directorate of Intelligence, called him a “co-opted Israeli agent.”[8] While Angleton was disgraced in the U.S. after his forced resignation, he was honored in Israel. After his death in 1987, according to the Washington Post, five former heads of Mossad and Shin Bet and three former Israeli military intelligence chiefs were present “to pay final tribute to a beloved member of their covert fraternity.” Among the services he rendered Israel, “Angleton reportedly aided Israel in obtaining technical nuclear data.”[9]
Douglass never mentions Angleton’s Israeli connection. He never mentions Jack Ruby’s Israeli connection either, although Seth Kantor had made them very clear in his book Who Was Jack Ruby? written in 1978. For Douglass, he is just “CIA-connected nightclub owner Jack Ruby.”[10] Only by scrutinizing the endnotes can we learn his real name, Jacob Rubenstein (doesn’t sound so Sicilian anymore). Ruby was not “Mafia”. Like his mentor Mickey Cohen, he was connected to both Meyer Lansky (boss of the Jewish Crime Syndicate), and Menahem Begin (former Irgun terrorist in chief).
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Feinberg was a powerful figure, and one that should be given more attention by JFK researchers. The founder of Americans for Haganah, he was deeply involved in the Israeli arms smuggling network in the United States, of which Jack Ruby had been part. In the 1950s and 60s, besides building up AIPAC, he was actively involved in Israel’s quest of the Holy Nuke.[38] It was Feinberg who organized the only meeting between Ben-Gurion and Kennedy, in New York on May 30, 1961, when Ben-Gurion first begged Kennedy to look the other way from Dimona.[39] Commenting on that meeting, Feinberg said to Hersh: “There’s no way of describing the relationship between Jack Kennedy and Ben-Gurion because there’s no way B.G. was dealing with JFK as an equal, … B.G. could be vicious, and he had such a hatred of the old man.” The “old man,” here, meant the patriarch Joe Kennedy, JFK’s father.[40] It must also be noted that Feinberg had fundraised for LBJ ever since his first stolen election for Senate in 1948.
I kind of look at this day as the end of my innocence. I was in 4th grade and my brother was the captain of the crossing guards and he came in and announced very solemnly, "The President has been shot." Shortly afterward he came and said, "The President is dead." The nuns hustled us over to the church where they had put a black cloth over some chairs like a coffin. The next few days were surreal with the killing of Lee Harvey Oswald during Sunday dinner and then the funeral on Monday. I really related to Caroline and John-John too.
After that I started thinking about death alot and feeling nervous where before I had been a very happy-go-lucky kid. Of course the subsequent assassinations, the Vietnam war and everything after that further convinced me that the world is a very dangerous place.
FWIW, I had a similar experience. I was in the third grade; my smart older brother J. was in the eighth grade.
I mention J. because our parochial school had a disused public address system; big, boxy speakers were mounted on the walls above the blackboards, but as far as I recall the PA system had never been used previously during my time there.
But on November 22, 1963, it suddenly crackled into life-- although it faded in and out for a while. It turns out that our principal, who had no idea how to work the control unit in her office, was prudent enough to summon smart eighth-graders to try to get it to transmit a radio broadcast. J. told me later that day that he was the guy who figured out how to enable the PA system.
It was confusing at first, but between the haphazard bursts of radio reporting from the PA speaker and (eventually) the nuns telling us that JFK had been killed, we got the message. To use an Irish idiom I picked up from the nuns, some girls began "bawlin' cryin'".
I believe we were dismissed early. At the end of the day, students formed various lines at our schoolyard's designated exit points; as we trudged up the alley to the adjacent street and dispersed, the line was dead quiet except for some crying. We were stunned.
We remained stunned during dinner. I think I still have the Philadelphia Evening Bulletin edition with the headline "Kennedy Shot Dead" in oversized bold font.
I was a precocious kid, but of course I swallowed the official narrative hook, line, and sinker. By the time I reached my cynical teens I knew better. It was a life-changing day. 😪 🤔
Yeah, as kids we had to accept the official story, as nonsensical as it turned out to be. I wonder how many adults were suspicious at the time.....
remember getting home early from school and seeing my mom crying by the TV
I heard other stories like that through the years...
years later I wrote a poem about that moment
the more I learn the more I miss him
“If you were alive and aware on 11/22/63, where were you? How did the news make you feel?“
I was a sophomore at Penn State living off campus. I overslept or something and was running across campus to get to my class, but no one was there, it was deserted. Somehow I found out that Kennedy had been shot, so I got on the bus and went home like everyone else.
At that time I was not a fan of JFK. I had been to a lecture by Paul Goodman where he said that being a speed reader didn’t make you smart (he didn’t think much of Kennedy). I thought that Kennedy was just all show with all the Camelot stuff. I was not aware of how he had saved the world from a nuclear confrontation with Russia over the Cuban Missile crisis and I had not heard or read his “Peace Speech” at American University.
Even though JFK was not my hero at the time, after I saw Jack Ruby shoot Oswald on TV, I never believed anything the government or media said about the assassination. It was clear to me that it was an “inside job.”
There is an incredible video by Andrew Lankes with Bill Hicks, “The Elite.” It’s a puppet show where Bill Clinton is shown a film of the Kennedy assassination in a smokey room with a bunch of old ‘capitalist scumfucks.’ They ask Clinton, “Any questions?” He answers, “Just what my agenda is.”
I believe that every politician who might think of being independent has this assassination in the back of their minds and I’m pretty sure that there will never be another one who will try and be like John F. Kennedy.
Well, it takes some paradigm shifting with this hallowed day, but you gotta put this at the feet of Isra-Hell, Mossad, the new or old Nazi's, all those non-Semites who ended up from Europe and decided they are the new Jerusalem. Read: Guyenot is amazing!
Kennedy Assassination: "CIA-Did-It" Theorists Are Covering for Israel -- by LAURENT GUYÉNOT • NOVEMBER 17, 2023 • 9,500 WORDS
https://www.unz.com/article/kennedy-assassination-cia-did-it-theorists-are-covering-for-israel/
You want some fun about 9/11?
https://www.memri.org/tv/french-author-guyenot-wtc-attacks-israel-lobby-jewish-mossad-operatives
Pulled Quote:
It is inconceivable that Angleton directed the whole operation. But if he was not following orders from Richard Helms — and there is not a single piece of evidence that Helms knew of the assassination —, under whose direction or influence was he operating? That is an easy one: besides Counterintelligence, Angleton headed the “Israeli Desk”, and he had more intimate contacts with the hierarchy of the Mossad than with his own. He loved Israelis as much as he hated Communists — apparently believing that one man could not be both. Meir Amit, head of Mossad from 1963 to 1968, called him “the biggest Zionist” in Washington, while Robert Amory, head of the CIA Directorate of Intelligence, called him a “co-opted Israeli agent.”[8] While Angleton was disgraced in the U.S. after his forced resignation, he was honored in Israel. After his death in 1987, according to the Washington Post, five former heads of Mossad and Shin Bet and three former Israeli military intelligence chiefs were present “to pay final tribute to a beloved member of their covert fraternity.” Among the services he rendered Israel, “Angleton reportedly aided Israel in obtaining technical nuclear data.”[9]
Douglass never mentions Angleton’s Israeli connection. He never mentions Jack Ruby’s Israeli connection either, although Seth Kantor had made them very clear in his book Who Was Jack Ruby? written in 1978. For Douglass, he is just “CIA-connected nightclub owner Jack Ruby.”[10] Only by scrutinizing the endnotes can we learn his real name, Jacob Rubenstein (doesn’t sound so Sicilian anymore). Ruby was not “Mafia”. Like his mentor Mickey Cohen, he was connected to both Meyer Lansky (boss of the Jewish Crime Syndicate), and Menahem Begin (former Irgun terrorist in chief).
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Feinberg was a powerful figure, and one that should be given more attention by JFK researchers. The founder of Americans for Haganah, he was deeply involved in the Israeli arms smuggling network in the United States, of which Jack Ruby had been part. In the 1950s and 60s, besides building up AIPAC, he was actively involved in Israel’s quest of the Holy Nuke.[38] It was Feinberg who organized the only meeting between Ben-Gurion and Kennedy, in New York on May 30, 1961, when Ben-Gurion first begged Kennedy to look the other way from Dimona.[39] Commenting on that meeting, Feinberg said to Hersh: “There’s no way of describing the relationship between Jack Kennedy and Ben-Gurion because there’s no way B.G. was dealing with JFK as an equal, … B.G. could be vicious, and he had such a hatred of the old man.” The “old man,” here, meant the patriarch Joe Kennedy, JFK’s father.[40] It must also be noted that Feinberg had fundraised for LBJ ever since his first stolen election for Senate in 1948.
Thank you for these, Cindy. Remarkable.
I had never seen that Garrison doc. WOW.
What stories Mr. Barbour has.
Wonderful. Though, of course, tragic.
John is awesome
Thank you for these, Cindy. Remarkable.
I had never seen that Garrison doc. WOW.
What stories Mr. Barbour has.
Wonderful. Though, of course, tragic.
Fascinating interview. Thank you!
No better guest to discuss this subject!
Talk to YOU on Tuesday!