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…and Bobby Kennedy, Jr. sure buckled on this one. I’m shocked but not surprised. Kucinich just stood there. Both know better ☹

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It took a lot for RFKjr to forgive Sirhan Sirhan. Let's give credit where credit is due.

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/rfks-son-favors-parole-sirhan-sirhan/

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has spoken in favor of Sirhan's release in the past, wrote in favor of paroling Sirhan."

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Sirhan Sirhan was an mkultra victim and not the only shooter in that place where his dad was murdered l. One act of forgiveness doesn’t make up for millions of painful experiences of the Palestinians. One thing Sirhan said in an interview is that RFK Sr had just made similar remarks about Israel that day at a rally in LA that enraged him. I did an interview with John Pilger who was in the kitchen as well and he said Sirhan was not the assassin, Bobby was there, he knows.

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I'm aware of the reasons why Sirhan Sirhan assassinated RFK Sr, I remember it like yesterday as a child of the 60s. My parents openly discussed it in front of me, I adopted their views about Israel's oppression of Palestinians at that time. Nonetheless, they loved Bobby Sr even though they understood the Arab-Israel Conflict was a complex foreign issue that triggered his assassination. Sirhan Sirhan has also expressed his deep regret of killing Bobby Sr

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Sirhan did not fire the shot that killed RFK Sr. It came from behind and he was in front of him. RFK Jr. knows this.

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I am not denying a conspiracy, but clearly Sirhan was there with his gun and shooting it wildly with the intent to murder RFKsr. There were dozens of witnesses, 5 other people were shot and wounded too, several of RFKsr closest associates subdued Sirhan including Rosy Grier who wrenched the gun from Sirhan's hand. Sirhan has always confessed. If he did not fire "the shot that killed RFKsr", I am open for debate about other shooters. Who are they and how did they escape crowded close quarters of a hotel kitchen? But Sirhan was clearly there shooting his gun many times with the intent to assassinate RFKsr. https://www.identitynetwork.net/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=46790&columnid=#:~:text "Section 182

Conspiracy to commit murder is a felony crime according to California law. According to California Penal Code Section 182, a defendant that conspires to commit murder may be punished in the same manner, and to the same extent, as someone punished for murder. In most cases the punishment is the same as first-degree murder.

Conspiracy to Commit Murder |

www.comingslaw.com/conspiracy-to-commit-murder.html "

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It was an inside job. That's why the killer was allowed to escape. The Arab/Israeli conflict was NOT the reason he was killed.

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Sirhan was a patsy in the same way Lee Harvey Oswald was.

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I believe it's not just forgiveness; he, and many others, don't believe Sirhan committed or was responsible for the murder.

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he wasn't

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Who assassinated RFK Sr?

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Maybe we'll never know for sure. The only thing I'm sure about is that Sirhan didn't, like Oswald didn't.

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okaaay

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Probably CIA, mafia, who ever. There are eyewitnesses. Like journalist John Ilger as I mentioned. We were not there.

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Thane Eugene Cesar. A security guard standing directly behind him. His gun was in his hand and pointed downward. L.A.P.D. didn’t even test with paraffin to see if he’d shot the gun.

Another question…

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Well, no… Sirhan Sirhan, while a shooter, did not kill RFK. L.A. County Coroner Thomas Noguchi concluded that the shot that killed RFK was directly three inches behind his right ear at point blank range. Sirhan was nowhere near there. What’s more, the bullet removed from RFK’s head was not the same caliber as that which came from Sirhan’s eight shot .22 pistol. 60s assassinations are my wheelhouse. LOL!!!

Also, your assessment is trite. F@ck the Palestinians because RFK, Jr. “forgave” Sirhan? NO.

Thank you for stepping out. 😊

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"Also, your assessment is trite. F@ck the Palestinians because RFK, Jr. “forgave” Sirhan?"

Wow, YOUR words, NOT mine. I have compassion for Palestinians and RFKjr both... I even have some compassion for Sirhan Sirhan, his youth was traumatic during Arab-Israeli Conflict. Btw, who assassinated RFK Sr?

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Not Sirhan Sirhan. That’s all we know for sure. I have also investigated this. James Earl Ray didn’t do MLK Jr either. Dr William Pepper debunked that one.

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Sirhan confessed at the time and later too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma_RpEcm7NY

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Yes no one has ever been coerced into a false confession or anything. Did you see what the LA coroner report said? You seem to be attached to establishment narratives. You do you, Kathy. I’m going swimming. Peace

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Sirhan was brainwashed and that conspiracy Bobby knows all about also. Are you well informed or dumb as a "normie" per say? Americans Suing Pompeo and CIA for Spying on Them : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCC-6jsr4aI ~ https://kevinbarrett.heresycentral.is/2023/06/is-tucker-carlson-ready-to-co-host-false-flag-weekly-news/?fbclid=IwAR1nroXAoniEL-wGFzaA8f75VeEfoqdbTIrQbGLrG7dS7e48v9vGX91ae4I ~ KEN O'KEEFE - 9/11 & USS LIBERTY MASS MURDER OF AMERICANS BY ISRAEL : https://www.bitchute.com/video/PgGrUiKmWmi9/?fbclid=IwAR2sqFf6KT_VHBBu8ZoXC6lUEUw6nX5_DYAIkIU9BslU-M-sM_JpQelKHZA ~ https://www.facebook.com/1worldcitizen

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Like minds---I was typing away at my phone essentially the same thing.

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LOL!!!! I miss you :)

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Would you marry me? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLR3MgZ6yms

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Cindy is a child of the moon : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIP-oImO-B8

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I assume that to be a yes!!!lol... Charges DROPPED Against Alleged Nazi Who Attacked White House : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCYPkhJt-Ac

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Ad hominem attacks do not a rebuttal make. I was referring to RFKjr's humongous capacity to forgive, I do not claim to know his journey and how he arrived there. And the phrase is "per se"

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Thanks for your editing - I'm new at this and have no Sympathy For The Devil : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwtyn-L-2gQ

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and please don't call people on my threads "dumb." We can have discussions without resorting to that. Thanks

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My favorite book is Diary of Anne Frank, however I have wondered how many Palestinian "Anne Franks" there are in Gaza too. Thank you for keeping their cause for humanity alive

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Absolutely. When I was in Amsterdam I got a special tour of the home her family was hidden in. Very meaningful.

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hate to burst your bubble, ms C &ms K... https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Anne-Franks-Diary-a-Hoax.pdf

'It is with mixed feelings that we present here the first real expose ever undertaken on The Diary of Anne Frank. ... The colossal hoax surrounding the Anne Frank diary is so immense, the implications so profound that mankind must find out about it...'

AND

falsificationofhistory.co.uk /false-history/the-faked-diary-of-anne-frank/

'The Faked Diary of Anne Frank

The story contained within Anne Frank’s diary, that world famous testimony to the sufferings of a Jewish family during World War II, may or may not be a true story as far as it goes (we will never know for sure), but it is one hundred percent certain that the diary that was published and subsequently became a worldwide best seller was not written by Anne Frank herself...'

AND

nationalvanguard.org /2015/01/anne-frank-hoax-exposed/

'...TUCKED AWAY ON pages 119 and 122 of the October 6 issue of Der Spiegel, a weekly German news magazine comparable to Time or Newsweek, was a news item of considerable significance:

 A scientific analysis of the manuscript purported to be the original diary of Anne Frank, a Jewish girl who died in a German concentration camp during the Second World War, has revealed that the manuscript could not have been written before 1951,

 six years after the end of the war. (ILLUSTRATION: Anne Frank. She died of typhus in 1945 — but she didn’t write a diary.)

The significance of Der Spiegel’s revelation of this fraud is twofold...

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I've read and seen it all... and am open to anything except ad hominem attacks.

Thank you very kindly for your civil discourse!

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No bubbles burst for me,

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My bucket list! My parents went there back in early 2000s (knowing it was my dream).

They brought me a video from her Amsterdam "Secret Annex" and on it is the only home movie of Anne Frank (ever so briefly) full of life watching out her home window (before going into hiding)

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No. While I appreciate a lot of what he has done, I’m afraid he’s going to be another sheep dog. IF he gets coverage, he may elevate the conversation. But that’s about it. I’d have more faith if he ran as an independent.

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Agree…let’s do another chit chat soon

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w0w, ms Cindy, you sure cover all the bases, manyThanks, but...failed in locating Your Peled interview, could You supply the link,svp & also, if there's one for Gilad Atzmon.

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THANK YOU CINDY for making this topic bold and clear. A major source for documenting ISRAELI SHIT is Alison Weir´s If Americans Knew >> https://ifamericansknew.org/. The most disgusting aspect of Israeli atrocities is that if you say Israeli shit stinks, you´re considered anti-semitic... Yuckspeak.

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I have also had her on the Soapbox

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It's only "a contentious issue" amongst certain folks.

I only began paying attention myself, in or around 2006. During the "Israeli Lebanese conflict..."

(Oh hush now...)

It was after Rachel Corrie was murdered in 2003. (I'd not heard about that... it was the Lebannon conflict.)

Began digging. Doing my homework.

Discovered the bloody horrific "regrettable accident", with photos and video footage.

The IDF soldier driving the armored John Deer bulldozer which ran her over, and then backed up to run her over again, as well as the IDF, were absolved of any blame, in civil court.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtb2nm

So, if one wishes to discuss very recent GENOCIDES, inhumane, viciously discriminatory and downright murderous behaviours? Especially when committed against Palestinians and activists?

Fuhhgeddaboudid.

One cannot attempt this in "polite" company. (Try.)

PS: My Jewish ex husband whose Jewish surname I still retain for identification purposes, nearly had an aneurysm and became so violent towards me that his pacemaker went kaphlewy and he had to sit down... When I tried.

His (temporary) indisposition gave me time to pack my belongings and flee. In the middle of a snowstorm. In the middle of nowhere. In the middle of the night. On foot. But hey, that's another story innit. 😉

Bottom line: speak certain truths aloud at your own risk but I'm a living testament that what doesn't kill you makes you STRONGER.

Apparently some lionesses have more lives than ordinary cats. (RIP Rachel.)

Anyway, choose your battles carefully, amongst people who've been indoctrinated for far too many years.

Beware: They've been fed only permissible pap, within MSM outlets.

This guy for instance, known as "Billboard Chris", is an activist from my neck of the woods. He tries to protect children, and raise public awareness.

https://thenationaltelegraph.com/regional/vancouver-police-look-the-other-way-when-trans-mob-attacks-childs-rights-activist

Check out the Police Officers, who swore to serve and protect us. One smiles and laughs. (Badge #3081)

Chris was physically attacked by trans activists while a swarm of cops, "policing" the event in Grandview Park, my old hood, pretend there's nothing to see here.

We saw though.

Recorded it.

The incident was not reported (kindly) on mainstream news. Billboard Chris was blamed, not his attacker. (As was a Calgary AB pastor. Arrested the following day... The pastor. Not his public library attackers.)

"Trans Day of Visibility".

We do see and hear you. Day after day after day. In libraries. At street festivals. At every sporting event, all month long.

Did anyone watch the ballgame last night? Rainbow flags and jerseys and rainbow draped children everywhere as far as the eye could see.

I happened to be in an establishment. 10 big screen TV's were on.

WHERE SELDOM IS HEARD A DISCOURAGING WORD. IN PUBLIC...

(Sshhh.)

Rachel Corrie too was blamed. For being in a "war zone." (If anyone saw what really happened? It was not an unfortunate accident.)

Brainwashing apparatuses have been 100% successful. In polite circles.

Most folks, for instance, have never heard of "Breaking the Silence", an organization which has been around a good while...

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

There's a documentary film floating around out there, somewhere. IDF soldiers' confessions.

Anyway, Roger Waters has never wavered on war activism. Good.

Did he waver during "Covid"? Seems like he bought into it. Yes.

https://twitter.com/rogerwaters/status/1443015679611973634?s=20

He's still standing. And still receiving standing ovations.

https://twitter.com/rogerwaters/status/1662213373772328961?s=20

That's all.

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I mentioned this in a note earlier today, but if you take the position that "Everyone's a Palestinian," then the resolution of the crisis is in sight. In other words: We're all Palestinians. Those bullets coming for them will be, sooner or later, coming for you if you do not conform to the dominant Ideology. Israel plays the "Holocaust Card" like its House Money. Sounds "anti-Semitic" on the surface, but drill down a bit, and not very far, and realize that all of Europe was "Anti-Semitic" for centuries: It was literally their Stock and Cultural Trade. The Holocaust was on the Books all along. European Culture has always been a Fascist enterprise, surprise surprise, and a few Jews went along for the ride. So did a bunch of other ethnicities, depending on their shares of stocks, that sort of thing. Race Hatred: Just ask the Armenians, Indonesians, Native Americans, Africans, Arabs, etc...

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Never "hero worship," but on foreign policy and international relations, I don't think RFK Jr or his father were in the same league as 'Uncle John." And that doesn't just include the Soviet/Russian issue; it also includes the "Israel/Arab" issue.

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Bernie Sanders didn't kowtow to Israel, and he did just fine in both of his campaigns. Until he was cheated by his own party, that is.

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This is still probably THE third rail of all third rail topics in this country. Besides oppression and violence, you can add the weapon of "lawfare," thus ensuring protest is "illegal" or "terrorist." For violence against Americans, you can add the MILITARY attack on the Liberty in 1967 (no major mea culpas that I'm aware of). Sticking solely to the prohibition of buying or leasing lands in certain areas, IMAGINE the reactions of Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff if ANY non-white "being" (and/or Jewish "being" if they're judged to be white) were treated so, as a matter of policy, in a SINGLE instance. It would be a continuous 24-7 "righteous outrage" story on CNN and MSNBC.

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Volumes could be written about Israeli atrocities.

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And have been.

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Some of the best by Israelis (or ex-Israelis) themselves.

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a good place to begin, is this fearless book...'The General's Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine ' 2016

by Miko Peled

'A powerful account, by Israeli peace activist Miko Peled, of his transformation from a young man who'd grown up in the heart of Israel's elite and served proudly in its military into a fearless advocate of nonviolent struggle and equal rights for all Palestinians and Israelis. His journey is mirrored in many ways the transformation his father, a much-decorated Israeli general, had undergone three decades earlier. Alice Walker contributed a foreword to the first edition in which she wrote, "There are few books on the Israel/Palestine issue that seem as hopeful to me as this one." In the new Epilogue he takes readers to South Africa, East Asia, several European countries, and the West Bank, Gaza, and Israel itself.'

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I read it and interviewed him for The Soapbox

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Toxic hate from against Israel you Cindy. I stand with Israel. Seek counseling soon please.

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Why does criticizing the state of Israel require "counseling"?

History has shown that victims and oppressors can indeed be the same 'tribes' of people at different time periods.

Just one of many examples: The Spaniards oppressed the Aztecs, yet other indigenous peoples joined the Conquistadors because they were oppressed by the Aztecs!

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I fear the coming justice. It will be swift and very painful. History of ancient Israel spells it out too.

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The unchecked moral decay, total injustice and continued violence of both this country and Israel will lead to disaster via chastisement. No one can predict exactly how but I believe it will come. One point of reference is that Israel became so corrupt that the Babylonians literally carried them away to be enslaved until King Cyrus freed them.

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James Earl Ray was also a patsy.

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