We have shooters because we have no mental health care...and we have no economic justice, we have no examples of honest leadership, we have a broken health care system killing us, we have broken communities and loss of small businesses, we have illiteracy, shaming, vicious rage-aholics, WE ARE FALLING APART as a society..we are drugged through distractions and computer games and shaming and Netflix and a fear of death and because most of us have not really LIVED... we are FUCKED and no matter how much I love others, it is not going to stop....WE ALL HAVE TO begin by loving one another through ACTION and organizing our communities to deal with the very real problems we are seeing everywhere...STOP WAITING FOR POLITICIANS to do it...they DO NOT CARE about us because they are part of a system of delusional power seekers...we need a goddamned revolution of the people....
It is, but for the many clueless out there, some of which don't have the time or energy to look into the truth of things, RFK could be a nudge in the right direction.
Without the majority knowing that war over there is essentially war over here, we are powerless.
Couple of questions; criminals do not give up their guns. How do you resolve this issue. #2 If the police and criminal are corrupt who do you seek redress from?3# you live in a bad neighborhood, you call the police they do not come. You can’t move out of the neighborhood you are in an upside down mortgage. How do you protect yourself and others? #4 The police departments across the country are now gearing up for warfare in our street, they have armored vehicles, riot gears, gas masks, various forms of bullets. They are also writing rules of engagement,which is done in military conflicts but now being done here on our various communities. How do you tell the police which are good guys and which are bad? # 5 You have a peaceful, respectful, march going on, in the groups are various government people egging people to commit to violence, you also unknown to you have people who are armed and they are using the peaceful demonstrators as human shields? 6# there are gaps in all police departments because of policies, changes in culture, family, economics, white flight, housing crisis mounting and police are suppose to correct everything. How do you do that when you defund the police?How come politicians have one way of seeking judicial resolve but others do not have the power, money, etc to receive the same? How can a convicted politician get a gun when it is in fact illegal to own one? I don’t like guns, I understand the need for them.I also don’t trust the government to do the right thing. Every bit of freedom you give up is another lock you are eventually going to have to unpick.
I don't believe it is hopeless. I believe a great many people are angry enough to fight back in numerous ways....that are not destructive or illegal... organization is key, leadership is necessary...leaders will emerge because they have always been here
Exactly! Thank you Cindy! It's up to us! One of the biggest problems is people thinking that there's any equity in voting or the system and the people there in. The system is way beyond redemption and will never be repaired from within. I've been saying this for years.
I could have a short memory of history here, but in the mid-90s they passed a law allowing TV commercials for prescription drugs. There were surely mass shootings before, but the first big one after this law was Columbine. The mental health crisis didn't necessarily cause the gun violence, but this new psychiatric drug free-for-all, especially for kids and teens to solve every freakin' social problem, accelerated it.
The classic conservative argument for addressing mental health (yes, while ignoring their hero's decision regarding the institutions) must be coupled with the alt conservative argument against pharmaceuticals. The liberals (at least the ones I know) have this horrible blind spot on pharma, and don't see that shitting on the Sacklers is not enough.
That's why European countries that still allow guns don't have this problem; they regulate drugs to a fault. It's much better for the population to regulate prescription drugs than guns. Australia brags about its lack of violence after their gun ban (ahem, Mr. Jefferies), but who built and populated quarantine camps and who didn't?
I still don't have a gun and I used to think the tyranny argument was ridiculous because the government has drones, tanks, etc. But after seeing what happened, it turns out the authorities are indeed scared of individual gun owners. It was about what they didn't do and not what they did do.
Even a winning war destroys many of the soldiers on the winning side. In the '50s employers recognized that some WW2 veterans had lost their minds, and made room for them. Most vets just stayed drunk all the time to keep the bad memories at bay. It wasn't called PTSD but it was COMMON.
Right on Cindy! You say what needs to be said and is on the minds of so many parents concerned about the world their children are growing up in. War control should be in the hands of a newly-created Department of Peace. Thank you for sticking to your love.
I totally agree. I seldom hear mentioned the native viewpoint( in fact never) that this "nation",another extension of Euro Imperialism and Catholic Dictates, was "founded" on genocide and plunder. In historical context it's been going on thousands of years. You nailed the answer. It's each of us understanding what peace is and feeling it for our selves. Then we can spread it one to one, then community until we reach critical mass where peace is put to action feeding,sheltering, caring for fellow humans. Now there's a word you don't hear much either...human. I participate and contribute to the Peace Education Program.
I've seen it work in prisons and schools and more. Peaceout.
“For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.” -Pythagoras
“For hundreds of thousands of years the stew in the pot has brewed hatred and resentment that is difficult to stop. If you wish to know why there are disasters of armies and weapons in the world, listen to the piteous cries from the slaughter house at midnight.”—Ancient Chinese verse
“Aren’t humans amazing? They kill wildlife – birds, deer, all kinds of cats, coyotes, beavers, groundhogs, mice and foxes by the million in order to protect their domestic animals and their feed. Then they kill domestic animals by the billion and eat them. This in turn kills people by the million, because eating all those animals leads to degenerative – and fatal – health conditions like heart disease, stroke, kidney disease, and cancer. So then humans spend billions of dollars torturing and killing millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, few people recognize the absurdity of humans, who kill so easily and violently, and once a year send out cards praying for “Peace on Earth.”~ David Coates
as the last quote i posted states, it's extremely sad that very few human beings make the connection between violence against non-human animals and violence against other human animals. they will vehemently condemn some forms of violence while willing supporting other forms thereby focusing on the symptom as opposed to the root cause. when they are made aware of this fundamental connection they will staunchly deny & defend the violence they choose to fund on a daily basis. in fact, the torture & murder of non-human animals is so socially acceptable that they are not even considered as victims at all by the vast majority of the human race.
“It is not THIS bloodshed, or THAT bloodshed, that must cease; but ALL bloodshed - all wanton infliction of pain or death.” - Henry Salt
“The first thing you notice when you go vegan is that everyone is mad, and they tell you you’re mad. You voluntarily enter the moral Twilight Zone. You discover a grotesque inconsistency between the beliefs people express and their behavior. You realize that we’re all highly irrational, and that it’s emotion that rules culture, and culture rules the behavior of individuals. No matter how much harm it causes, nothing we do needs to be justified as long as it’s popular enough.” - Karen Manfrede
Really well said! I've also always felt there is a correlation between the violence our Empire commits abroad and the violence here at home. American culture has become seriously militarized, or re-militarized, since Iraq-Attack-One, and then militarized on steroids since 9/11. Much of the MSM reporting on Ukraine boils down to fetishizing various types of weapons and weapons systems (besides the "human interest" stories). I think, too, that the global and historical illiteracy of an essentially passive American consumer-citizenry is a massive part of the problem, as big media and its consumers respond to each mass shooting in a predictably Pavlovian way, and we get, as you point out, this sterile right-left binary reaction that always goes absolutely nowhere: Just rinse and repeat for the next domestic massacre, and don't question the MIC. Again, great article.
For me, the most barbaric aspect of gun violence is the usa constitution that enshrines the right to bear weapons for the purpose of killing another living being... doG bless ameryucka
Funny that I never hear anyone condemning Switzerland for their laws regarding guns. The 2nd Amendment is certainly not the culprit. A government that perpetually engages in war and a society that celebrates violence, plus a medical industry that enslaves us with narcotics and psychiatric drugs has much more weight that a 2nd Amendment that few have even read, and certainly don't understand the historical content. You may decry the slogan "Guns don't kill, people kill" but it is certainly accurate. How much simpler it is to blame an inanimate object than look at the sick individuals that use the gun.
Around the world, stronger gun laws have been linked to fewer gun deaths. That has been the case in Switzerland, too. After hundreds of years of letting local cantons determine gun rules, Switzerland passed its first federal regulations on guns in 1999, after the country's crime rate increased during the 1990s... Nobody condemns Swiss gun laws because fewer guns resulted in greater public safety...
All I can say is that we've always been an invader, a conqueror nation. We still are. We might not stamp our name directly on the latest victim, but it's still 'ours'. We are historically and financially tied to war. Our economy desperately depends on war and aggression. We always have been at war and we always will be at war. They who lead us, whether in government, the private sector, or academia or religion or media, are in fact, untouchable. Unmovable. Honestly, while I embrace what the internet has brought, more openness and sharing of ideas, I don't see anything of consequence changing.
All that said, we may, could be upon a time of consequential/universal change, a moment in time when something happens that causes the shift that humanity needs and begs for. The pandemic, mass shootings and now the careless threat of nuclear war (by us of course), haven't done it.
We came from creates living in caves drawing on rocks to where we are today. We managed to survive and thrive. It's truly amazing when you really think about it. Look at art. Photographs from space. Listen to a recording of music or watch a emotional film. Look at your smartphone and what it can do. What it took to reach this place in time is in all honesty, due in some degree to our rise and that includes our past war-making.
Where does it stop and we truly flourish above and beyond violence? Or, as it looks now, take it out into the great beyond of space...if we of course we don't obliterate ourselves first.
Concurring, we need to advocate gun control for the imperial military cabal. But in order to have Peace, we need to address its precondition--jJustice! Then we need to look at ITS precondition--Truth (about the legacy of assassinations of leaders, about 9/11, about the corporate covid narrative. But to do that requires HONOR. Firm public support for HONOR is the starting point, and scathing ridicule against the public serpents for whom honor is an unintelligible noise.
We have shooters because we have no mental health care...and we have no economic justice, we have no examples of honest leadership, we have a broken health care system killing us, we have broken communities and loss of small businesses, we have illiteracy, shaming, vicious rage-aholics, WE ARE FALLING APART as a society..we are drugged through distractions and computer games and shaming and Netflix and a fear of death and because most of us have not really LIVED... we are FUCKED and no matter how much I love others, it is not going to stop....WE ALL HAVE TO begin by loving one another through ACTION and organizing our communities to deal with the very real problems we are seeing everywhere...STOP WAITING FOR POLITICIANS to do it...they DO NOT CARE about us because they are part of a system of delusional power seekers...we need a goddamned revolution of the people....
"STOP WAITING FOR POLITICIANS"
Yes, what I wrote
it’s an adolescent delusion that RFK Jr can set us right. Only we all together can do that.
Isn't that what I have been trying to show you?
indeed
It is, but for the many clueless out there, some of which don't have the time or energy to look into the truth of things, RFK could be a nudge in the right direction.
Without the majority knowing that war over there is essentially war over here, we are powerless.
Yes! Thank you!
Couple of questions; criminals do not give up their guns. How do you resolve this issue. #2 If the police and criminal are corrupt who do you seek redress from?3# you live in a bad neighborhood, you call the police they do not come. You can’t move out of the neighborhood you are in an upside down mortgage. How do you protect yourself and others? #4 The police departments across the country are now gearing up for warfare in our street, they have armored vehicles, riot gears, gas masks, various forms of bullets. They are also writing rules of engagement,which is done in military conflicts but now being done here on our various communities. How do you tell the police which are good guys and which are bad? # 5 You have a peaceful, respectful, march going on, in the groups are various government people egging people to commit to violence, you also unknown to you have people who are armed and they are using the peaceful demonstrators as human shields? 6# there are gaps in all police departments because of policies, changes in culture, family, economics, white flight, housing crisis mounting and police are suppose to correct everything. How do you do that when you defund the police?How come politicians have one way of seeking judicial resolve but others do not have the power, money, etc to receive the same? How can a convicted politician get a gun when it is in fact illegal to own one? I don’t like guns, I understand the need for them.I also don’t trust the government to do the right thing. Every bit of freedom you give up is another lock you are eventually going to have to unpick.
I don't believe it is hopeless. I believe a great many people are angry enough to fight back in numerous ways....that are not destructive or illegal... organization is key, leadership is necessary...leaders will emerge because they have always been here
Exactly! Thank you Cindy! It's up to us! One of the biggest problems is people thinking that there's any equity in voting or the system and the people there in. The system is way beyond redemption and will never be repaired from within. I've been saying this for years.
I could have a short memory of history here, but in the mid-90s they passed a law allowing TV commercials for prescription drugs. There were surely mass shootings before, but the first big one after this law was Columbine. The mental health crisis didn't necessarily cause the gun violence, but this new psychiatric drug free-for-all, especially for kids and teens to solve every freakin' social problem, accelerated it.
The classic conservative argument for addressing mental health (yes, while ignoring their hero's decision regarding the institutions) must be coupled with the alt conservative argument against pharmaceuticals. The liberals (at least the ones I know) have this horrible blind spot on pharma, and don't see that shitting on the Sacklers is not enough.
That's why European countries that still allow guns don't have this problem; they regulate drugs to a fault. It's much better for the population to regulate prescription drugs than guns. Australia brags about its lack of violence after their gun ban (ahem, Mr. Jefferies), but who built and populated quarantine camps and who didn't?
I still don't have a gun and I used to think the tyranny argument was ridiculous because the government has drones, tanks, etc. But after seeing what happened, it turns out the authorities are indeed scared of individual gun owners. It was about what they didn't do and not what they did do.
Even a winning war destroys many of the soldiers on the winning side. In the '50s employers recognized that some WW2 veterans had lost their minds, and made room for them. Most vets just stayed drunk all the time to keep the bad memories at bay. It wasn't called PTSD but it was COMMON.
no such thing as a winning war, though...I get what you're saying.
I had a great uncle who killed himself after the war and way before I was born.
😥
Right on Cindy! You say what needs to be said and is on the minds of so many parents concerned about the world their children are growing up in. War control should be in the hands of a newly-created Department of Peace. Thank you for sticking to your love.
The only reason I registered as a Democrat in 2008 was to nominate the proponent of a Department of Peace, Dennis Kucinich.
I totally agree. I seldom hear mentioned the native viewpoint( in fact never) that this "nation",another extension of Euro Imperialism and Catholic Dictates, was "founded" on genocide and plunder. In historical context it's been going on thousands of years. You nailed the answer. It's each of us understanding what peace is and feeling it for our selves. Then we can spread it one to one, then community until we reach critical mass where peace is put to action feeding,sheltering, caring for fellow humans. Now there's a word you don't hear much either...human. I participate and contribute to the Peace Education Program.
I've seen it work in prisons and schools and more. Peaceout.
“For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.” -Pythagoras
“For hundreds of thousands of years the stew in the pot has brewed hatred and resentment that is difficult to stop. If you wish to know why there are disasters of armies and weapons in the world, listen to the piteous cries from the slaughter house at midnight.”—Ancient Chinese verse
“Aren’t humans amazing? They kill wildlife – birds, deer, all kinds of cats, coyotes, beavers, groundhogs, mice and foxes by the million in order to protect their domestic animals and their feed. Then they kill domestic animals by the billion and eat them. This in turn kills people by the million, because eating all those animals leads to degenerative – and fatal – health conditions like heart disease, stroke, kidney disease, and cancer. So then humans spend billions of dollars torturing and killing millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, few people recognize the absurdity of humans, who kill so easily and violently, and once a year send out cards praying for “Peace on Earth.”~ David Coates
thank you
as the last quote i posted states, it's extremely sad that very few human beings make the connection between violence against non-human animals and violence against other human animals. they will vehemently condemn some forms of violence while willing supporting other forms thereby focusing on the symptom as opposed to the root cause. when they are made aware of this fundamental connection they will staunchly deny & defend the violence they choose to fund on a daily basis. in fact, the torture & murder of non-human animals is so socially acceptable that they are not even considered as victims at all by the vast majority of the human race.
“It is not THIS bloodshed, or THAT bloodshed, that must cease; but ALL bloodshed - all wanton infliction of pain or death.” - Henry Salt
“The first thing you notice when you go vegan is that everyone is mad, and they tell you you’re mad. You voluntarily enter the moral Twilight Zone. You discover a grotesque inconsistency between the beliefs people express and their behavior. You realize that we’re all highly irrational, and that it’s emotion that rules culture, and culture rules the behavior of individuals. No matter how much harm it causes, nothing we do needs to be justified as long as it’s popular enough.” - Karen Manfrede
AS A WISE MAN ONCE SAID:" CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG"
After the police state beat the crap out of him.
Really well said! I've also always felt there is a correlation between the violence our Empire commits abroad and the violence here at home. American culture has become seriously militarized, or re-militarized, since Iraq-Attack-One, and then militarized on steroids since 9/11. Much of the MSM reporting on Ukraine boils down to fetishizing various types of weapons and weapons systems (besides the "human interest" stories). I think, too, that the global and historical illiteracy of an essentially passive American consumer-citizenry is a massive part of the problem, as big media and its consumers respond to each mass shooting in a predictably Pavlovian way, and we get, as you point out, this sterile right-left binary reaction that always goes absolutely nowhere: Just rinse and repeat for the next domestic massacre, and don't question the MIC. Again, great article.
For me, the most barbaric aspect of gun violence is the usa constitution that enshrines the right to bear weapons for the purpose of killing another living being... doG bless ameryucka
Well, that's not what the 2nd amendment was for, but that's what it has become
Funny that I never hear anyone condemning Switzerland for their laws regarding guns. The 2nd Amendment is certainly not the culprit. A government that perpetually engages in war and a society that celebrates violence, plus a medical industry that enslaves us with narcotics and psychiatric drugs has much more weight that a 2nd Amendment that few have even read, and certainly don't understand the historical content. You may decry the slogan "Guns don't kill, people kill" but it is certainly accurate. How much simpler it is to blame an inanimate object than look at the sick individuals that use the gun.
Around the world, stronger gun laws have been linked to fewer gun deaths. That has been the case in Switzerland, too. After hundreds of years of letting local cantons determine gun rules, Switzerland passed its first federal regulations on guns in 1999, after the country's crime rate increased during the 1990s... Nobody condemns Swiss gun laws because fewer guns resulted in greater public safety...
All I can say is that we've always been an invader, a conqueror nation. We still are. We might not stamp our name directly on the latest victim, but it's still 'ours'. We are historically and financially tied to war. Our economy desperately depends on war and aggression. We always have been at war and we always will be at war. They who lead us, whether in government, the private sector, or academia or religion or media, are in fact, untouchable. Unmovable. Honestly, while I embrace what the internet has brought, more openness and sharing of ideas, I don't see anything of consequence changing.
All that said, we may, could be upon a time of consequential/universal change, a moment in time when something happens that causes the shift that humanity needs and begs for. The pandemic, mass shootings and now the careless threat of nuclear war (by us of course), haven't done it.
We came from creates living in caves drawing on rocks to where we are today. We managed to survive and thrive. It's truly amazing when you really think about it. Look at art. Photographs from space. Listen to a recording of music or watch a emotional film. Look at your smartphone and what it can do. What it took to reach this place in time is in all honesty, due in some degree to our rise and that includes our past war-making.
Where does it stop and we truly flourish above and beyond violence? Or, as it looks now, take it out into the great beyond of space...if we of course we don't obliterate ourselves first.
We certainly live in interesting times.
Concurring, we need to advocate gun control for the imperial military cabal. But in order to have Peace, we need to address its precondition--jJustice! Then we need to look at ITS precondition--Truth (about the legacy of assassinations of leaders, about 9/11, about the corporate covid narrative. But to do that requires HONOR. Firm public support for HONOR is the starting point, and scathing ridicule against the public serpents for whom honor is an unintelligible noise.